tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post5733533506759801120..comments2023-08-24T10:39:23.460-04:00Comments on CAAFlog: Denedo Released, AffirmedDwight Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11657981110237418710noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-33431809318629938302009-06-11T22:26:05.149-04:002009-06-11T22:26:05.149-04:00Mike,
Can I still refer to the JAJG as "shme...Mike,<br /><br />Can I still refer to the JAJG as "shmendriks" or would that constitute a personal attack.<br /><br />They do, after all, meet the definition.Cossiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14096670749657701418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-67472151362575036162009-06-10T19:53:27.847-04:002009-06-10T19:53:27.847-04:00Cossio:
I tried to be nice the other day, but I h...Cossio:<br /><br />I tried to be nice the other day, but I have just about had it with the personal attacks. Confine yourself to relevant comments and not personal attacks or I will ban you from commenting (that does for others that feel the need to do the same or engage in personal attacks on Cossio).<br /><br />And for those that think they are so smart, don't think we can't track your IP address if we really wanted to.Mike "No Man" Navarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11434921480452541955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-51131991172918002832009-06-10T18:38:50.373-04:002009-06-10T18:38:50.373-04:00Denedo? What the hell are you talking about? I tho...Denedo? What the hell are you talking about? I thought this blog was a daily journal about this cool guy who keeps it real!<br /><br />Also, what does 123 mean? I've really got to start checking out these blogs before I start getting into them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-52285419412481043752009-06-10T17:36:44.347-04:002009-06-10T17:36:44.347-04:00I vote we ignore cossio, all who agree send 123I vote we ignore cossio, all who agree send 123Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-83982996230839527562009-06-10T15:20:47.012-04:002009-06-10T15:20:47.012-04:00Can we return to an intelligent discussion of Dene...Can we return to an intelligent discussion of Denedo please, and not Mr. Cossio's personal issues.<br /><br />Leave that up to the Character and Fitness Committee, which hopefully is not composed of any gay lawyers, for his sake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-88990305161669254962009-06-10T14:55:34.421-04:002009-06-10T14:55:34.421-04:00I've not personally attacked you at all, but y...I've not personally attacked you at all, but your positions, which are so over the top as to be comical.<br /><br />Again, it is one thing to be against gays, it's another to have the vehement attitude you have.<br /><br />As for sodomy, a couple of points. You can be gay and not commit sodomy, and you can be straight and commit it on a daily basis, and after the now not too recent Lawrence v. Texas decision, well, the only sodomy convictions you are likely to see will involve some inappropriate relationship (senior-subordinate or adulterous). You aren't going to see anyone solely convicted of sodomy merely because they are gay (or straight) doing it consensually with their of age, non-married partner.<br /><br />I truly hope you get some perspective. You seem to be very strongly Christian but you seem more focused on what's "wrong" and not enough on what's "right" like hate the sinner, love the sin, judge not lest ye be judged and the Golden Rule.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-68858114572787737052009-06-10T12:16:25.264-04:002009-06-10T12:16:25.264-04:00You are correct, I apologize for my venemous remar...You are correct, I apologize for my venemous remarks, however those who I insult have always insulted me first (I.e. Gay Shower innuedo).<br /><br />I will strive to keep my comments more civil.<br /><br />-tcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-17617817304379505022009-06-10T11:06:08.472-04:002009-06-10T11:06:08.472-04:00Cossio,
I'd like to offer you a piece of sinc...Cossio,<br /><br />I'd like to offer you a piece of sincere advice. This is really meant to be helpful, I'm not being sarcastic. Your venemous tone and tendency to call people stupid will not serve you well in the future. In both law school as well as the legal profession generally, civilized debate is crucial. If you continue to attack your opponent personally, rather than attack his or her argument, you will lose credibility and you will burn important bridges. Try not taking things so personally, and try not making things so personal. Again, I say this with complete sincerity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-38489979111653095782009-06-10T10:40:24.919-04:002009-06-10T10:40:24.919-04:00The UCMJ punishes sodomy, which many straight and ...The UCMJ punishes sodomy, which many straight and gay men have been convicted of. Thus homosexual acts are illegal.<br /><br />Now before you tie yourself up in gordoan knots, consider that we in the military punish drug use, a crime not normally found in the states, and people recieve a federal conviction, serious jailtime, and a punitive discharge.<br /><br />I don't expect a minor league lawyer like yourself to understand that in the military we punish things which are not crimes in the civilian sector in order to "preserve good order and discipline", so I forgive your ignorance if you think openly gay service members would not cause a disruption.<br /><br />Likewise your comments about Christianity and the roman empire contain obvious flaws, false premises, and faulty conclusions they warrant no debate from me. Although I consider your comments about fallen empires bringing better civilizations in some sort of Darwinian way interesting, it actually refutes your premise that Rome fell as a result of Christianity as, according to your own inane logic, it evolved.<br /><br />- tcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-60382422164329092142009-06-10T08:44:10.442-04:002009-06-10T08:44:10.442-04:00"Yes. Let me ask you a question stupid. Let&#..."Yes. Let me ask you a question stupid. Let's say you took your son or daughter to church or even the boy/girl scouts. You meet the people in charge but then you come to find out that they have a criminal background for molestation - does that bother you now stupid?"<br /><br />I just want to clarify this, you are comparing something which is a heinous crime with something that is perfectly legal (child molestation versus merely being gay) and you want to go to LAW school?<br /><br />"What would happen to the ancient Isrealites if they watered down marriage, allow for sexual impurity, and ate "unclean" foods?"<br /><br />I dunno, they would have been the Greeks? Or the Romans? Those guys had a bit of a run.<br /><br />"Our morals do not come from the Bible but from us. Homosexuality is against natures design."<br /><br />Have a special insight into nature's design do you? Have a special background in answering a question most scientist don't even know yet, whether homosexuality is biologically or genetically based? Your first sentence is fine, but your second sentence seems to forget that your first sentence even exists. <br /><br />As for possible "natural" reasons for homosexuality. Easy, how about as a population break. If it is so "un-natural" then why is homosexuality so prevalent in the animal kingdom?<br /><br />"So of course I doubt you people would realize that every society that has lived on its excesses, from Ancient Rome, Greece, Babylon, Israel, Technotitlan, and soon the US have all met similar ends."<br /><br />Every ancient society, excesses (whatever that means) or not met similar ends. They ceased to exist in their ancient forms and took modern ones. Rome perished not because of "excesses" but because they were in part simply too big for the ancient world splitting into East and West and because of the Germanic tribes. Still Rome survived almost 500 years, almost 1500 years when you include Eastern Rome. Yeah, those excesses really do make short work of an empire.<br /><br />Finally interesting that you ascribe part of Rome's fall to a decline in values given that Christianity was made the official religion in Western Rome about 100 years before it's collapse.<br /><br />I mostly think your comments are so over the top that you must be playing an online character or role. It's one thing to be against gays in the military, it's another to come across so clearly fearful of "teh gay" getting on you and infecting you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-54747018455725758792009-06-10T08:30:31.680-04:002009-06-10T08:30:31.680-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-53510864342644614692009-06-10T01:42:25.817-04:002009-06-10T01:42:25.817-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Cossiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14096670749657701418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-60267100003048992662009-06-10T01:07:31.264-04:002009-06-10T01:07:31.264-04:00egn,
Many civilizations recognized homosexually a...egn,<br /><br />Many civilizations recognized homosexually as wrong - this was before the Bible. Of course I recognize others approve of homosexuality and even child molestation in the past but the point is our morals do not come from the Bible but from us.<br /><br />Homosexuality is against natures design - that is to procreate and pass your traits down to the next generation.<br /><br />I am sure most lawyers on this blog cannot fathom the damage being done from their openess to a behavior which is determental to society, the low birth rates in America and Euroupe, the institution of marriage being eroded, the spread of STD's - all due to you people's openess and stupidity.<br /><br />The Bible's "rules" of unclean animals, sexual purity, and morality had not only a religious connatation, but an underlining scientific and common sense reasoning.<br /><br />What would happen to the ancient Isrealites if they watered down marriage, allow for sexual impurity, and ate "unclean" foods?<br /><br />Well they would have ended up like the canaanites, babylonians, etc. That is why these rules are in place, they are built in for our benefit.<br /><br />It doesn't seem you people much grasp common sense. Which is why our society is the way it is. That's a shame.Cossiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14096670749657701418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-70875040771087540652009-06-10T00:52:10.750-04:002009-06-10T00:52:10.750-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Cossiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14096670749657701418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-28428929278837203262009-06-09T22:38:30.426-04:002009-06-09T22:38:30.426-04:00No doubt one could find countless comments from hi...No doubt one could find countless comments from high-level officials opposing blacks in the military, women in the military, abolition, etc. That doesn't make the beliefs either correct or moral.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-60284858913000978852009-06-09T22:25:23.334-04:002009-06-09T22:25:23.334-04:00Just because a high level official supports a posi...Just because a high level official supports a position it doesn't make it right. The statement that homosexuality is immoral is a very subjective one.<br /><br />What provides the standards of right and wrong for an official of the Department of Defense? Is it the law? Is it the Bible? Or some other personal code of conduct not embodied in writing? In the case of Gen Pace, it appears that he used religion as a standard when he spoke of immorality. And while that's appropriate for him in her personal capacity, and may even heavily inform his decision-making process in his official capacity, those statement had no place in the public arena.<br /><br />As far as public ethics, as codified by law, is concerned, the most you can say is that homosexuality is amoral. It is neither right nor wrong; it simply is.<br /><br />(This comment thread has certainly strayed far from the original post topic. So, how about them Yankees?)egnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00780985351955990209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-79066864846404592952009-06-09T21:20:04.186-04:002009-06-09T21:20:04.186-04:00Not to come to defense of Cossio, but, his comment...Not to come to defense of Cossio, but, his comments about homosexuality are not without high-level support. It was not that long ago that Gen Pace, the 16th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, opined about <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17590518/" rel="nofollow">homosexuals in the military</a>,<br /><br />"I believe that homosexual acts between individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts," Pace said in the audio recording of the interview posted on the Tribune's Web site. "I do not believe that the armed forces of the United States are well served by a saying through our policies that it's OK to be immoral in any way."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-15915153913361400602009-06-09T17:46:33.801-04:002009-06-09T17:46:33.801-04:00Cossio isn't a fighting man. He was in the Ai...Cossio isn't a fighting man. He was in the Air Force and spent a large chunk of his time in confinement...Where you know, he lived on the edge everytime he dropped the soap in the shower.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-3280653391047535362009-06-09T16:09:39.461-04:002009-06-09T16:09:39.461-04:00Its funny how homophobic Cossio seems. If he is in...Its funny how homophobic Cossio seems. If he is indeed a fighting man, why would he care if the guy next to him was wearing pink shorts or not? Cossio is no fighting man, just a pretender while some fighting men may bat an eye at a dude they thought was alittle different. I can assure you when going into an LZ all we would care about is can Joe Schuck shoot straight and can he raise hell if need be. Cossio do me a favor when finished with law school go chase a few ambulances and leave the honorable men and women gay or straight alone. I never cared who the dude next to me was bumping. As long as he or she can shoot he or she could go to war with me anytime. I have never seen an American flag on a fighting man that said Gay, Straight, African, chinese, Arab, Italian American or otherwise. It simply says AMERICAN for me thats all I need to know.lancasternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-83609713360713319462009-06-09T13:26:02.634-04:002009-06-09T13:26:02.634-04:00He never said they were communal showers. I guess...He never said they were communal showers. I guess he wants to be sure that he only invites straight men to shower in his stall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-23853492049334573932009-06-09T13:19:06.493-04:002009-06-09T13:19:06.493-04:00"I have served with men who were gay/bi sexua..."I have served with men who were gay/bi sexual (although I didn't find out until they were out of the service)."<br /><br />So let me make sure I have this straight. It isn't that the problem is actually having gays and bi-sexuals taking showers with you, because as you seem to concede, that's already happened.<br /><br />The problem is knowing that gays and bi-sexuals are taking showers with you?<br /><br />No doubt, it's the knowing that changes it from a dude just trying to get clean to a dude lusting after the fruit of your looms.<br /><br />And having deployed myself, I do wonder where are these communal showers you speak of anymore? I assume there may be a handful left, but my year in Iraq I never saw one, and I was in tiny FOBs and large bases.<br /><br />Is there something you'd like to share with us Cossio?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-90765923290030483992009-06-09T10:10:34.030-04:002009-06-09T10:10:34.030-04:00Cossio, You do realize that under the current don&...Cossio, You do realize that under the current don't ask/don't tell policy the shower rooms could—right now and when you were on active duty—be filled with homosexuals. Potentially everyone in there could be one. So I’d of thought that you would actually want the policy changed to allow gay people to serve openly because at least, from your perspective, you would know who was who.<br /><br />I, for one, am for the Starship troopers model. Its common in France and at European hostels to have shared dorms and shared bathrooms. It really isn't a big deal even for 18-24 year olds if you have an ounce of maturity or if you’re a sophisticated European.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-31642026448249102242009-06-09T09:15:53.762-04:002009-06-09T09:15:53.762-04:00Cossio's right. Until you've deployed to ...Cossio's right. Until you've deployed to a combat zone, you can't possibly understand what life is like in the showers there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-86580525754793545982009-06-09T09:14:12.567-04:002009-06-09T09:14:12.567-04:00Great point. The right to privacy provides servic...Great point. The right to privacy provides servicemembers with a shower room free of homosexuals. Good luck in law school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34853720.post-955056691296365722009-06-09T09:00:22.824-04:002009-06-09T09:00:22.824-04:00Again, you are taking my comments about don't ...Again, you are taking my comments about don't ask don't tell as an extreme.<br /><br />Common sense would dictate that having a man who is openly attracted to other men in the same area were they shower and live in is bad for unit cohesion.<br /><br />However, I understand that most of you lawyers have no idea what it is like to actually be in combat, so your ignorance is forgiven.<br /><br />I have served with men who were gay/bi sexual (although I didn't find out until they were out of the service). It matters not to me, however for other people it does. We should not force bad ideas onto our fighting men and women for the sake of being PC. You talk about rights, but what about the right to privacy?Cossiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14096670749657701418noreply@blogger.com